It's not the right word, but the first one that comes to mind.

The Jedi are a secluded, high-ranking group. While the protectors of the people, they have no relationship with any of them. In fact, they do not seem to want any interaction with people outside their tower, yet risk life and limb to save them. This is most evident Episode 1 when Obi-Wan inquires about Jar-Jar Binks, "what's this?" While we can all agree that Jar-Jar deserves to be sodomized by a midichlorian-infected rancor, Obi-Wan's remark is nevertheless elitist.

Shmi is no different. Like Qui-Gon says, they are not there to free slaves... but just the one they need. The Jedi as a whole have an agenda of their own, and do not feel the need to meddle in anyone else's business besides that which concerns them and their goals.

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I agree - to an extent. If you will recall, the Jedi tried to bargain for both Shmi and Anakin, but they could not convince Watto. The Jedi also had a lot on their hands - they had a mission to complete for the bettering of the Galaxy as a whole. There were simply not enough Jedi to fight all the corruption everywhere, so they had to choose their battles.

Now I also noticed these things when I watched the movies and have decided that this was the main reason the Jedi fell - they lost sight of their true purpose. Because they had special powers, they were often called upon to do things that only they could do, and eventually they began to feel that any job that could be performed by any non-Jedi was beneath them.

At least that's my take on it.

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1 if they didnt wanted anakin to grow up with his mother all right, still could have fred her... Let her live on Naboo or where ever.

2. allright, the jedis didnt free her, what about padme? Anakin saved her life and her planet in ep1. she could have freed her, she was a ****ing queen for **** sake, bend the rules a bit...

3 thats the reason anakin had to destroy the order to fullfill the prophesy and bring back the banace. The order become to seperated, to far away from the humans, lost all touch, it just become a soulless creature, without anything as a heart. Lukes order is way better, he marries and tries to help everyone. Like Kayle and the others.
Anakin was the best jedi, thats why he fall, to much of aperfectionist.

The Jedi are the keepers of the peace. Going to free Shmi would disturb the peace because they would have to go through slaves and slave traders.

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The Jedi knew Shmi was Anakin's mother and who was supposed to be keeping tabs on her? Maybe Obi-wan. When Anakin came to Obi-wan and told him about his dreams of his mother in pain. Obi-wan told him to shut up go to sleep and forget about it.

Reason - the Jedi council thought Anakin was too attached to his mother. Well Anakin was a mama's boy, how many young boys soley raised by their mother was a mama's boys. Face it Anakin loved his mother. Is there anything wrong with a boy loving his mother? How attached was he? I'm sure he wrote, sent messages, talked to her on the holocron. But Obi-wan felt it was a weakness on Anakin's part because Obi-wan had no attachments.

implied - Obi-wans familiy or anyone he called family were killed when Obi-wan was young therefore Obi-wan had no attachments. He is kind of sterile? Isn't he?

Obi-wan took the easy way out. Told the sand people where to go, A local farmer paid off?! Obi-wan never told the council about Anakin's dreams because Obi-wan was covering his but. He figured Shmi would be killed quickly and a letter of condolence would simply be sent to Anakin. But that was not the case, Shmi was tough and didn't die and Obi-wan had to keep Anakin occupied.

implied scene: when Anakin spoke to Yoda about guarding Padme Yoda sensed Anakin's feelings for her. ( like anyone else didn't notice?) "For that are matters of the heart and we will not interfere" was sort of what he said and gave Anakin his blessing. He then stated that he worried about his mother and that he was having dreams.

"Dreams, what dreams? Obi-wan didn't mention any dreams?" Anakin looking puzzled.
Something's wrong. Can you spare anyone?
I can spare no one. But tell ya what. Tatooine is not far from Naboo. Why don't you go help your mother out after your certain Padme is safe?

I'll speak to Master Windu him you can trust or we can keep this matter private.

Anakin thought for a moment and decided to keep it to himself.

He decided to go to Naboo, spend some time with Padme, a little vacation to clear his head and then he knew what to do. Go and help his mother.

When he got to Tatootooine it was to late.

0nce again, you have to thread lightly when expressing fact from opinion. Though your post has some of the former, it has gross amounts of unbelieveable opinions, that even borderline nonsense. I wonder exactly how you view the Jedi, or more importantly Kenobi? You seem awfully cynical, negative, and harsh - for all the wrong reasons too. Humourous to read nevertheless, but do not get carried away....

I have utmost respect for the jedi and the council. And some for Obi-wan, he did train Anakin and Anakin owed him that. Throughout the later chapters it is Ob-wan's failures. Always Obi-wan's failures. Didn't Vader say "Now Obi-wan's failure is complete." He didn't say my failure! Think about it. What exactly is Obi-wan's failure? Anakin? No. Anakin turning to the dark side is not Obi-wan's failure. That was Anakin's choice and he made it freely. Obi-wan failed to take care of Qui Gon Jin when he was supposed to be such a great student? I'm sure when Anakin found out exactly who was responsible for his mother's death and I do not mean the sandpeople Anakin lost a lot of respect for his master.

A better presentation.
But, 0bi Wan's failures? Why exactly? Anakin should have never been trained. He should have never been placed in his situation. The Jedi Council exists for the sole reason of governance, wisdom, collective thought, code, and laid orders. lf you respect this body so much, you should disregard any of 0bi Wan's shortcomings as they were ones he should have never faced. Anakin was too old, knowledgeable on day-to-day life, and too attached to elements within his life. This screamed failure at the start. l do not know where you get your stuff, but Kenobi did not know the truth (or the Council) about Shmi's fate, or have a responsibility in it. That is lowblow conjecture. ls it Kenobi's fault for allowing the death of Qui Gon? Why? Because he could not part a heatshield and help out? lf it is anyone's fault, it would be Qui Gon. He got himself killed. He was the master in the fight, and he even had two total chances to destroy Maul. ln a single opponent on opponent fight, the responsibility should be beared by the loser, and by the loser alone.

Why blame Kenobi? Was it not Qui Gon that foresaw Kenobi would make a marvelous Jedi knight in the years to come? 0ne that would supercede even him? Kenobi, though lagging behind in technical abilities (l am sure most Jedi did as well) unconventional, and a bit clumsy - he for the most part came through in everyone of his tasks. He was applauded by Anakin for being wise, and powerful, respectively like Mace and Yoda. Seems not like one that is failing a padawan. The truth should lie more with the extremely conflicted Anakin. He is a moral mess, which has been knotted further by things from society. Anger, indecision, rogue behaviour, love, yearning, lust for power - Anakin is a mess than not even Charles Xavier could attempt to sort out. Do not blame Kenobi, the only surefire master which would have succeeded in training Anakin, is a trick answer. No master would, because he should not have been trained, simple as that. l would like to add, too much pressure was placed on Kenobi too: he was a recently knighted Jedi upon taking up Anakin. An unexperienced newly founded knight. That is way too much responsibility for him to assume.

Keep in mind, when quoting Darth Vader, his deluded and power-poisoned mind is off on a list of things. When he says that, he can easily be misinterpreted as wrong by any audience, or even he may just be using it as a taunt. And why would Dark Vader say it is his undoing and fault? What kind of a remark is that? That is the same as asking a corrupt senator if he is corrupt and actually wanting a truthful answer.

Face it if Qui Gon Jin raised Anakin (These Jedi's are surragate parents) Do you honestly think that he would put up with Anakin running in and out of Palaptine's office for one minute?! He would of taken Anakin horsewhipped him and given him twice that if he ever caught in him in his office ever again. And that would be that.

Think about it, did Anankin ever really listen to Obi-wan? Why was he even permitted in Palpatine's office to begin with? Face it would you put a ten year old kid (Jedi or not) with a guy as creepy as Palpatine, Ick! Get that kid out of there! Why would he let that kid near that office shows me he didnt have any gual in the first place. If Anakin can pick up Padme's vibes certainly however hidden Anakin must have picked up something creepy from Palpatine. You don't see any other jedi kids hanging out there and even though their parents are not there and these kids are off in jedi school how would they like it if their kids write back and tell them I met this creepy guy and he's the chancellor. Don't you thinki that they would be up Yoda's but sceaming?

Note: There are a lot of Anakin fans, Qui Gon Jin Fans, but not too many Obi-wan fans? you tell me?

Look enough knocking Obi -wan, he had his shortcomings and we all do. Yeah, he played too much by the rules. The bottom line was he was an ineffective parent. He was about twenty stuck with a 10 year old kid, He is too much a big brother to Anakin and not a father. The Jedi Council was probably concerned with the age difference but it was Qui Gon Jins wish that Obi-wan trained Anakin perhaps so they both learn from each other, Anakin not to be so rambuctios, and Obi-wan to learn its okay to bend the rules and show a little emotion perhaps a little balance? Anakin may not have respected him as a mentor but he did consider him a friend and he did trust him. After all Obi-wan did watch over Luke?

l do not have to face anything. l know what l know.
Put up with what? Qui Gonn, Anakin, and Kenobi were probably three of the most unconventional, fueled, and reckless Jedi in the 0rder. They were unlike all their peers. What exactly are you thinking about, when Anakin talks to Palpatine, ever so briefly, in Episode l? What is it, like one-line? Hardly a time period of communiction. lf you mean Episode ll, he is already a young adult. He can handle his own discussion, Qui Gonn (like the other Jedi) would have accepted Anakin's ease in contact with the Chancellor, as the 0rder thought of him with a little suspicion. You either are trying to prove a ridiculous and falsely founded peverse thing, or you simply cannot convey your message right.

ln Episode ll & lll by the way, Anakin is in constant contact with Palpatine due to Palps wishes, and request. The Jedi 0rder easily accept it, and do not really mind it. Not sure if you even understand what you are trying to get across....

Anakin never listens. He did not listen when Qui Gon told him to stay in the N-1 cockpit and not touch anything. As he grew older, he would become increasingly belligerent, reckless, and arrogant. He would end up taking whatever master he had more and more lightly - even Qui Gon. By the way, Kenobi allowed Anakin to be more independant and liberal. lt was a decision he made in order to have Anakin realize things better, at least under Kenobi's watch.

Plenty of Kenobi fans exist. He is one of the most popular characters in the Saga. Certainly more than Qui Gonn. You certainly are a weirdly deluded Star Wars fan and theorist.

And Qui Gonn was effective? Qui Gonn thought of himself as a failure after failing to correct his previous padawan's descent into darkness (Xanatos l recall) Qui Gonn also treated Padme like a child. Qui Gonn foolishly bet EVERYTHlNG on the fact that Anakin would win, still a horrible risk to take. This is the ultimate answer, Anakin's training as a knight was doomed from the start. Though he definitely did bring balance, it was not the balance intended - and l doubt any other master would have provided an improvement if given the chance.